The Queen’s 2009 Christmas message…

 ”It is important to keep discussing issues that concern us all…..”

So said the Queen in her Christmas message and there is no doubt that the almost complete absence of any meaningful, open discussion and knowledge of contaminated toxic air in airliners (which is breathed by Royalty too!) - would not please Her Majesty.

So people, let’s have a bit more open discussion in the New Year – remember, last year Her Majesty repeated the famous quote that:

“All it takes for evil to prevail -  is for good men to say nothing”

Discuss away &  a Merry Christmas to all our readers and thank you to The Queen, once again.

She would not be amused if she knew how her subjects were dealing with the issue.

Perhaps she does know, as she has been a ‘frequent flyer’ on the BAe 146…..

Aerotoxic Syndrome – UK court – a first?

 22nd December 2009 a UK Judge uttered the words AEROTOXIC SYNDROME for probably the first (but not last) time.

In a UK Divorce court a Judge made note of the fact that an ex airline pilot had suffered from 18 years of serious ill health brought about by breathing toxic oil fumes in the confines of an airliner.

Whilst he did not have time to delve into the scale of the issue (not his department) he clearly acknowledged that at long last that the long arm of the law - is not as long as he thought.

Most rational human being’s can understand that if you poison people, take their jobs, take  their homes and take their health away and then relationships suffer as a direct result then it is the poisoning that CAUSED the problems.

The sooner the guy with the bad fittting wig faces up to the above chain of events – the better for all mankind. If he could be on a ‘fume event flight’ and he /she and their families suffer the same, so much the better.

22nd December 2009 – the first time, but not the last.

BA’s 800 Cabin Crew left because they were sick!

BA are keen to point out that 800 cabin crew who were leaving also voted to go on strike BUT might that be the same 800 who are leaving because they were surveyed recently and found to be chronicallly sick?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/5849374/Illness-among-cabin-crew-heightens-toxic-air-fears.html

When the strike has died down and a full survey is done of sickness in aircrew – the full extent of the ill health will be realised.

Aircrew and passengers breathe the SAME air - for any doubters out there!

So safe flying to all – let’s hope you don’t have a 1 in 2000 fume event flight or 1 in 100 – from the Engineers records, who know about these things.

No toxic chemical detectors on board, just stroppy cabin crews noses to smell the often invisible fumes.

Don’t say you weren’t warned – by 800 ex professional aircrew who had their health – trashed.

They want your money! It’s win / lose.

Round One to - ’The Stupid Law’  – A technicality.

The law also states that the air should be fresh NOT toxic – what happened to that law - Does anybody care?

Round Two – Ding!

Under age drinking is harmful!

 Underage drinking (before 15) is harmful to children claim leading doctor$ - but breathing toxic fume$ in the confines of an aircraft fu$elage i$ - no danger at all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8413559.stm

How do these doctor$ ignore $o much evidence – under their no$e$?

What is the likely effect on a young baby from breathing toxic oil fumes, for several hours?

Soon we will have the answer to the question of “What is the Maximum Exposure Limit (MEL) or Occupational Exposure Standard (OES) from the HSE (Health and Safety Executive) of TCP or Tricresyl phosphate”.

Because that’s what it boils down to –  ”How much TCP can a human body stand in the air?”

Pilots, cabin crew, passsengers and babies – you’re all the same.

So remember children “Don’t drink your parents booze” – but you can all fly - as much as you like….

The actual MEL or OES from the HSE of TCP is…….zero, zilch,  nothing, o.

Why?

TCP is nerve gas!

Bleed Air 1963 – 2009 RIP

 ”This is one small step for Boeing  – one massive step for the health and well being of mankind”

On 15th December 2009 the Boeing 787 Dreamliner flew for the first time.

As most people know, it is an ‘all new airplane’ – the bit that you won’t hear much about (as it’s a bit sensitive) is the return to 1950’s technology and using pumped outside fresh air instead of oily bleed air.

Well done Boeing! Congratulations on your brave decision of about 10 years ago – coincidentally when AEROTOXIC SYNDROME was first named…in 1999.

All we need now is for all of the other aircraft manufacturers to work it out!

Urgently.

Alternative view point…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“What a load of complete alamist nonesense your site is. A blatent attempt to boost sales of a completely useless product through feer.

Absolute rubbish!”

As seen on the Aerotoxic Association web site.

http://www.aerotoxic.org/

A poorly spelt e mail recently recieved from an ex? Airline Manager - which demonstrates a ‘different’  point of view.

In theory one would reply, but what’s the point?

Unless he has suffered or knows somebody who has (he does, but hasn’t made the connection) then it’s a bit pointless. He’ll “get it” one day, but only when it’s too late.

On the other hand he will probably be one of those few who will never be affected; these people do exist!

The question is how much research does it take to convince somebody?

A politician or newcomer being told that the ‘Cabin air is poisoning innocent people’ would maybe quite rightly - not believe it. The Prime Minister of the UK would be a case in point along with many other Labour politicians.

BUT, if he or she has got the time to browse through the evidence  – for maybe an hour or so – then the doubts should begin.

Obviously a personal expereince is the best, such that a previous pilot sceptic who scorned the concept of aerotoxicity a few years ago – now he has lost the use of his kidneys and is now on dialysis. The consultant has told him  “ It was caused by oil fumes. ” Too late.

Instant conversion. It’s just that people are not making the link – yet. Nobody tells them.

So Airline Managers and Politicians, please take that hour to look at the evidence as you have a duty of care to your employees, voters and customers - ignorance of the facts will be no defence.

You are responsible for knowing - not ignoring.

Here is a step by step introduction; but remember – Aerotoxic may be – ‘All in the mind and a complete aberation….’

Only one side – can be right.

And just for the record, activated carbon face masks are optional and ‘better than nothing’ – for when the cabin air….. changes colour.

 It’s just a simple, optional solution, low cost and preventative measure  – just like the mandatory life jacket, under your seat. Anybody who says that toxic fumes in a confined space are not dangerous – which planet do they live on?

http://www.aerotoxic.org/index.php/press-office/350-caq-introduction

Shut down research – when it gets too close…

There have Have been many Unviversity research  projects / departments shut down or threatened recently – these are the ones that are getting a bit too close to the truth.

Simple, just shut them down.

Rather like in 2006, when 27 out of 27 pilots tested were found to have highly abnormal amounts of chemicals in their blood / fat and measurable cognitive dysfunction. Just come up with weak  excuses like – ‘They were all self selected’ – So?

And then - let’s just forget that trial. No more testing as it tends to find - inconvenient facts.

Remember airline customers, breathe the same air….

So now with the 20% cuts in public spending due  – with  ’Transport’  lined up as one of the departments to be cut. The testing of oil fumes in passenger airliners will just have to be stopped - somehow…to save money?

Just wait and see. There’s always a way - to NOT find the evidence.

You’ve been warned, in advance. Don’t look and you will not find.

Fiddling scientific data & RAF fighter testing.

Climate change scientists have been recently accused of fiddling data to suit their own agendas.

Whilst in 1943, testing toxic gas in RAF fighter jets was possible. Why not in 2009?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/8389727.stm

Well, at least the Climate groups have some data to fiddle.

Meanwhile, it is less than 100 days before Cranfield University MUST publish their ‘urgent’ data on which chemicals and concentrations are in Public Transport Airline Fume Events.

That’s if anybody is interested in what’s in the air they breathe whilst flying? If you are not interested, that is fine but any missing data should be construed as seriously inconvenient news which somebody somewhere - doesn’t wish to be known.

Any sign of organophosphates found ‘one day’ (which have NO SAFE LEVEL OF EXPOSURE) should be viewed as ‘perverting the course of justice’.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8270000/8270978.stm

100 days and counting…

Most would acknowledge that it would take about a week maximum for even an incompetent scientist to measure such chemicals and their concentrations – 2  1/2 years is just – useless?

Meanwhile, in 1943 during the dark years of World War Two, the RAF were able to measure carbon monoxide (CO) in front line fighter jets.

An extract from Fly for your life a true story of Battle of Britain fighter ace Wing commander Robert Stanford Tuck D.S.O D.F.C and two bars by Larry Forrester. Tuck was renowned for his good luck. Tuck’s luck. 

They were having a little teething trouble with the Hawker Typhoons; Carbon monoxide fumes were coming back from the stub exhausts into the cockpit, sometimes in sufficient quantities to nauseate the pilots. The boffins came and tinkered with the exhausts and said they thought they had reduced the amount of fumes. To make sure, they fitted in the cockpit of one machine a little box which could measure the exact percentage of carbon monoxide in the air inside the cabin. They asked for a number of test flights: Prosser Hanks did most, Tuck did a few. There seemed to be a definite improvement.

One day towards the end of the test programme, he was walking out to the test Typhoon with his parachute over his shoulder when an airman stuck his head out of the window and called “Telephone, Sir!” At that moment the ground crew finished their starting drill and the Typhoon’s huge Napier Sabre engine exploded into life: if she wasn’t taken off quickly she would overheat. He signalled that he couldn’t take the call and continued out to the aircraft, but the airman came running after him and bawled through cupped hands: “It’s the Station Commander, Sir. Say’s its very important!”

He groaned, dumped his chute and started back. At the door of the dispersal hut stood one of his best pilots, a young Argentinian named Dack. This boy had flown one or two of the tests. “Dacky, you take her. You know the drill.” The kid nodded, grabbed his gear and hurried out as Tuck lifted the phone.

Group Captain Mac Donald wanted to discuss arrangements for night flying during the coming week. It was important, but it could have waited an hour or so. They talked for perhaps ten minutes, then Tuck went out and sat in one of the cane chairs, smoking and looking out over the fields.

Out of the hazy blue he saw a Typhoon diving. It didn’t pull out. It disappeared behind some trees about a mile on the other side and raised a tremendous cone of flame and smoke.

He rode out with the crash trucks. A big, smoking crater and a field littered with scraps of metal. Twelve feet down in the brown earth: the remains of the big engine. Of the pilot: only little red lumps, half a shoe, scraps of clothing, part of a watch strap.

A check with control proved it could only be Dack. There had been no enemy activity all day, so he hadn’t been shot down. The cause of his death might always be a mystery, because there wasn’t enough left of his machine to give the technical experts a clue.

But the Aviation Medical people solved it. They found a piece of Dack’s liver and analysed the contents: enough carbon monoxide to kill an elephant.

Probably something had gone wrong with the Boffins little box. Instead of trapping the fumes it must have pumped out enough to make the pilot pass out.

There but for the grace of a ‘phone call…He got through to Group Captain MacDonald and in a quiet, earnest tone said: “Sir, I want you to know you can ring me up just any time.”

 

 

 

Organophosphates cause irritation….

In 2004 the UK CAA published a paper on the effects of exposure to chemicals in the confined space of an airline cabin.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAPAP2004_04.pdf

The only effect they could come up with was IRRITATION (a minor nuisance smell).

Whilst they expertely ignored all of the other reports from professional aircrew at the time such as feeling in a ’Vegetative state’ ‘Intoxicated’ ‘Alzheimer’s’ ‘Early dementia’ etc.

However in many ways whoever wrote it at the CAA was absolutely right as the effects of OP’s are KNOWN to make one very IRRITATED (angry) - especially when they are so deliberately misunderstood and misrepresented.

It is now known that the ONLY way to experience the effects of OP’s is to try them onself  (Lawyers, Doctors, CAA, scientists, media and Judges take note) – but don’t worry, if the only effect is irritation (a nuisance) you have absolutely nothing to fear…

Anybody for a whiff of OP’s?

Gas chambers…

There is an unhappy part of history when millions of innocent people were herded into gas chambers and…

In 1945 gas chambers were discovered in Nazi Germany into which millions of innocent people were herded to murder them.

Any comparison to herding innocent people into luxury jets is entirely coincidental.

Chemical toxic poisoning may not kill you immediately, it is far more subtle.

It only half kills you – giving you CFS, ME , MS, Pakinsons, Alzheimer’s, Aerotoxic syndrome etc.

The final, adult solution is surely to recognise the risk and then take simple, precautionary measures?   Just in case.

Urgently.

 Don’t let them get away with it – again.